Jan 18, 2008, 05:45 AM // 05:45
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#1
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Feb 2006
Guild: FIERY KNIGHTS
Profession: R/Mo
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Slaver Thom Rand Faster
NT acrross the wall
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Jan 18, 2008, 07:05 AM // 07:05
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#2
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Oct 2005
Profession: W/
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What? 12char
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Jan 18, 2008, 07:57 AM // 07:57
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#3
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Feb 2006
Guild: FIERY KNIGHTS
Profession: R/Mo
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Is it that hard to understand? look at the mini map.
* aggro some mobs and have the necro nt across once there are dead bodies.
* have the war carry a vamp weapon, so the necro can rebrith across the wall once he's dead
* bond up the tank as usual and have him pull the mobs including justicar.
* justicar should be dead in 5-12 minutes i didnt really time it.
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Jan 18, 2008, 09:47 AM // 09:47
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#4
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Krytan Explorer
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good idea, but it seems your monks were not doing a great job
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Jan 18, 2008, 10:41 AM // 10:41
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#5
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Jul 2007
Guild: Blade of Souls [BoS]
Profession: E/
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That's sweet - makes the prospect of farming Thommis' chest for rare skins pretty attractive too if mobs can be consistently aggroed through the wall. Shame I've never, ever seen a good item drop from a Slavers' chest.
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Jan 18, 2008, 04:40 PM // 16:40
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#6
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Feb 2006
Guild: FIERY KNIGHTS
Profession: R/Mo
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the monks were good we were just too distracted talking, the aggro is actually pretty good because the warrior was able to pull justicar right away.
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Jan 18, 2008, 08:24 PM // 20:24
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#7
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Aug 2006
Profession: R/
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Ahhh crap. Just what we need, another gimmick that will further narrow the range of builds/people that get in PuGs.
I'm guessing you could use this to get across the Door in Forge without getting the key also.
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Jan 19, 2008, 01:27 AM // 01:27
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#8
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Feb 2006
Guild: FIERY KNIGHTS
Profession: R/Mo
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omg didnt even think about that good idea nt across and rebirth everyone, once u have room. gj dude faster run !!!!!!
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Jan 19, 2008, 01:46 AM // 01:46
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#9
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: USA
Guild: LOVE
Profession: Me/E
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This is pointless unless everyone dies so that they can go on the chest side and receive their drop. Even if this occurs, they need to come out - which won't be so easy unless someone stays back. OR fight back to the start.
So, in essence, it is a waste of time. From start to Thommis, it takes no longer than 15 minutes anyway using the regular method.
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Jan 19, 2008, 02:56 AM // 02:56
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#10
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Aug 2006
Profession: R/
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I agree with mage with regards to Thommis...that area's easy enough even with henchies.
But the potential to do this for Forge is worth investigating... you could essentially cut the run time in half.
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Jan 19, 2008, 11:40 AM // 11:40
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#11
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Isle of Meditation
Profession: N/
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we've come across this a few times as well, but I've never brought NT 'cause not many monsters spawn near enough to be killed (maybe they have made an update dunno).
5-12 mins for this part of the dungeon can be easily done without this "trick". I think faster would be using NT to cross and then lure the boss to the wall and then kill him, which will open the wall to chest. The few times I came across this cut the run in half.
My second drop from the chest was an amethyst aegis, I was happy.
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Jan 20, 2008, 06:51 AM // 06:51
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#12
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Guild: None
Profession: W/
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That's a Obsidian flesh tank 'n' spank build
Instant fail
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Jan 21, 2008, 01:56 AM // 01:56
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#13
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Portugal
Guild: Jade Reapers[JD]
Profession: A/R
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First : Masque your a noob!
Second : When you find exploit you "exploit" it then you tell the world!
Third : While you took the time to write this we had to kill Rand with only one Ele but thank god you dropped!
Forth : Were you not "as you are" you could find out that in order for this to work you need an extremely rare spawn where the foes come close enough to wall for you to aggro them.
Fifth : You tried to take credit for something you didn't come up with!
Sixth :Your a very bad player!
Seventh : The tank , ME , takes huge time to die.
Eight : 5-12?No , 10-15min because Justiciar AI makes him run back if his group is all alive.
For all the rest of you : after you kill Justiciar the wall crumbles and you can walk through so if your lucky enough to get such a spawn take advantage of it but let me remind you that you need both rebirth and NT or Consume corpse for something so rare its not worth to bring those skill inspite of others.We had a lucky spawn.
Further more there is a way to do this in about 10-12min muc much easier and safer.
As for Forgewright : these is another door , which doesnt require a key to open just before the room where he is and it is probably closed as well so you would need to NT two rooms.Problem is that you need a corpse and on the other side of the door I mentioned there are no foes ever and spirits dont leave corpses.
Last edited by blacknemesist; Jan 21, 2008 at 02:00 AM // 02:00..
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Jan 21, 2008, 02:17 AM // 02:17
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#14
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Aug 2006
Profession: R/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by blacknemesist
As for Forgewright : these is another door , which doesnt require a key to open just before the room where he is and it is probably closed as well so you would need to NT two rooms.Problem is that you need a corpse and on the other side of the door I mentioned there are no foes ever and spirits dont leave corpses.
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Thanks for clearing that up.
As for the rest... well there are idiots everywhere.
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Jan 21, 2008, 05:29 AM // 05:29
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#15
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Jul 2005
Guild: [PIG]
Profession: W/A
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thats a waste of time, just use h/h or pug it.
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Jan 21, 2008, 07:13 AM // 07:13
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#16
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Feb 2006
Guild: FIERY KNIGHTS
Profession: R/Mo
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OMG DUDE, YOU DONT EVEN PAY ATTENTION TO YOUR TEAMATES !!!
I was the ONE ELE that was left on that team, that your TALKING about. I was the same person that said aint gonna finsh this for this afk'r but i stayed put because i felt bad for the team, and then we finally killed Rand though it took us over an hour because I was the ONLY ELE left and we didnt have enought fire power.
That was the other guy that was afk'er then he got dc after. (voska was the afkr') and then x em linda got dc he even pm'd, on of our teamates to let us know that he didnt just bail
I was the same person the brought up the idea to try it to see if it would work and you thought we should try it (including the other monk we had)
Theres nothing to exploit. common knowledge that u can nt thru walls if there are bodies..
Make it worse if u read my thread nowhere here i took credit for it.
Seriously blacknemesis (nature is) next time take some pills to help u remember with your memory loss, because your MOUTHING off at the wrong person. Makes it worse you seem to be a nice guy when were chatting in game on that run, i guess i was wrong
Quote:
Originally Posted by blacknemesist
First : Masque your a noob!
Second : When you find exploit you "exploit" it then you tell the world!
Third : While you took the time to write this we had to kill Rand with only one Ele but thank god you dropped!
Forth : Were you not "as you are" you could find out that in order for this to work you need an extremely rare spawn where the foes come close enough to wall for you to aggro them.
Fifth : You tried to take credit for something you didn't come up with!
Sixth :Your a very bad player!
Seventh : The tank , ME , takes huge time to die.
Eight : 5-12?No , 10-15min because Justiciar AI makes him run back if his group is all alive.
For all the rest of you : after you kill Justiciar the wall crumbles and you can walk through so if your lucky enough to get such a spawn take advantage of it but let me remind you that you need both rebirth and NT or Consume corpse for something so rare its not worth to bring those skill inspite of others.We had a lucky spawn.
Further more there is a way to do this in about 10-12min muc much easier and safer.
As for Forgewright : these is another door , which doesnt require a key to open just before the room where he is and it is probably closed as well so you would need to NT two rooms.Problem is that you need a corpse and on the other side of the door I mentioned there are no foes ever and spirits dont leave corpses.
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Last edited by MASQUE EYE; Jan 21, 2008 at 07:36 AM // 07:36..
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Jan 21, 2008, 02:25 PM // 14:25
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#17
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Portugal
Guild: Jade Reapers[JD]
Profession: A/R
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Well since you took the time to write this I thought you to be the one being afk because...well...you couldnt play and write at same time.Sorry about the rest that I said thinking you as the afker.
As for the original idea I dont know who came up with it , just knew it wasnt the afker.
As for my "memory loss" : at the time is was 3am here do you remember all you played with?
Nevertheless , this exploit was said to be a closed one and noone would tell it before we did some experiments on it.Thats why I was so mad :though you as the afker and you almost blew up something we could take advantage on for ourselves.
Thankfully noone seemed to think of the obvious...
There is another method to do this at a constant rate and pretty much "fail free" but this one I found myself and aint telling.
Best run so far as to this way I found 6min average run is 10-15min though.
It isnt very hard to tell how I do it so use your brains to figure it out.
GL
Quote:
Originally Posted by blacknemesist
As for Forgewright : these is another door , which doesnt require a key to open just before the room where he is and it is probably closed as well so you would need to NT two rooms.Problem is that you need a corpse and on the other side of the door I mentioned there are no foes ever and spirits dont leave corpses.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tekDragon
Thanks for clearing that up.
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I know there is a door there but either it is opened all the time or if it opens when the top door is opened , that needs to be seen.
Last edited by blacknemesist; Jan 21, 2008 at 02:32 PM // 14:32..
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